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of certain deductions and tax loopholes that benefit the wealthy. speaker of the house john boehner emphasized that hiking taxes on these wealthy americans will hurt the very people who create the jobs. >> we are not going to hurt our economy and make job creation more difficult, which is exactly what that plan would do. >> barack obama has made his clearest demand since winning reelection. taxes on the wealthiest of american citizens must go up. he says the country could suffer a, quote unquote, rude shock if there is too much stubbornness in congress over his agenda and nothing gets done. >> step number one that we can take in the next couple of weeks, provide certainty to middle-class families, 98% of families who make less than $250,000 a year, 97% of small businesses, that their taxes will not go up a single next year. give them that certainty right now. we can get that done. >> question, who will blink first? how will this be resolved? paul. >> both sides have an incentive, even though they're saying the opposite to wait until after the first of the year. after the first of th
. senate majority leader reid said they would work to come up with a deal deal. house speaker john boehner says house speaker john boehner says he thinks they will have a solution before the end of the year. >>> and there are new details about the woman, jill kelley, at the center of the scandal that brought down general petraeus. as nbc's andrea mitchell reports jill kelley's connections went beyond the social elite and tampa, all the way to the white house. >> reporter: jill kelley and her twin sister met at the white house, touring it on november fourth november 4th, two days be general james november 4th, two days before general james clapper, the director of national intelligence was even told about the petraeus scandal. jill kelley mentioned the visit in an e-mail, saying i was at the white house with my friends in the administration this weekend. the stress was surreal. white house officials say the jill kelley sisters were invited by a staffer who may have met at the air force base. jill kelley was bipartisan in her outreach, she and her sister dropped in on a fundraiser for marco
's debt crisis. but speaker john boehner told house republicans that after last week's election the mandate from the american people is to work together even if it means additional revenues through tax reform. meanwhile bill kristol, editor of "the weekly standard," seemed to cave in on the president's demand that wealthy people pay more. >> you know what? it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. really? t >> reporter: the president begins making his case this week. what's different this time is that administration officials are already suggesting to congress that mr. obama is willing to let the deadline pass, let tax rates go up, and spending be cut if he can't get the deal he wants. norah, charlie? >> wow. bill plante in washington, thank you. >>> later this morning we'll ask conservative activist grover norquist if republicans are backing away from his no tax increase pledge. >>> two weeks ago today superstorm sandy battered the northeast. more than 100,000 homes and businesses still have no power. most of them
would be willing to accept and double the amount that speaker boehner had offered the president during their debt negotiations last year. today the president is scheduled to meet with ceos from a dozen companies. there's some of them on your screen. general electric, ford, ibm all playing a part. they'll discuss ways to work together and try to find a balanced approach to reducing the deficit. during a closed-door meeting yesterday with union leaders and liberal supporters, president obama reportedly vowed that he would, quote, not budge when it comes to letting the bush tax cuts expire for the country's highest earners. labor leader and president of the afl-cio, richard trumka, was among those at the white house meeting. he said he and the president are on the same page. >> we're very, very committed to making sure that the middle class and workers don't end up paying the tab for a party that we didn't get to go to. the president led with that notion of protecting the middle class, and now you have republicans that have it in their power, they could sign a bill tomorrow that protects
seem to be moving closer to a key sticking point. >> speaker boehner seemed to suggest that he was open to closing loopholes, to real tax reform. can you get there by just closing loopholes, or will it take more than that? >> well, look, i don't want to prejudge the discussions. i think that the speaker's comments have been encouraging and there is obviously money to be gained by closing some of these, closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. there are a lot of ways to skin this cat. gregg: illinois congressman peter roskam joins us. he is on the house ways and means committee. he joins us from chicago. good to see you. house speaker boehner says he will oppose any increase in tax rates. and the white house said on friday, and i will read this directly, the president will veto any bill that includes an extension of the current tax rates for those earning more than $250,000 a year. so congressman, where is the come promize? >> i think the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. we've heard this language coming from the white house before. we hea
boehner, basically had a deal in place, it ended up getting blown up at the last minute. i think there is a, perhaps, a new conciliation on both sides. i think they were waiting for the election to get over. i think the attitudes are positive on both sides. and i think they've got the framework for a deal already set up from last year. so i don't think that there are any closer but i also don't think they were that far away last year in 2011. >> do you think that closing the loopholes would be enough for a deficit reduction package? >> it doesn't appear that that's going to raise enough revenue to get to where the democrats want that to be. republicans say they don't want to raise rates. there are some -- there's some budget chicanery that can go on in terms of dealing with one baseline instead of another baseline. that's what it looked like boehner wanted to do last year. there are a lot of different options here. it's interesting, bill kristol from the weekly standard appeared to be talking to grover norquist, the anti-tax activist in those comments that he played earlier, talk
election? >> no, not at all. in fact, after election day the president, speaker boehner, senate ma minority leader mitch mcconnell all talking about the facecle life, what they were going to do, not going to do, what they wanted to negotiate, not negotiate, but on friday, as news exploded out from the cia thanks to our own andrea mitchell that the president accepted the resignation of the cia director, general david petraeus, all of that -- you have to add that plus all the things you talked about, fiscal cliff, to what the president has to deal with. as you said, no honeymoon, indeed. >> and added to what jonathan just said, julian, there are some concerns over this that this is just the tip of the iceberg. i want to play you something senator feinstein said to andrea mitchell this afternoon. >> this thing came so fast and hard. since then it's been like peeling an onion. every day another peel comes off and you see a whole new dimension to this. so my concern has actually escalated over the last few days. >> it's clear she's suggesting this is going well beyond the realm of a personal mat
think mr. boehner has got to understand they lost and let the wishes of the majority of the people in this country prevail. but once again, when you have millions of people really struggling in this country economically, when you have some people out there wanting to cut benefits for disabled veterans and people on social security through a so-called chain cpi, you tell me, if there's any state in this country where people think, we're going to cut benefits for disabled veterans and elderly folks but we're going to give more tax breaks for millionaires and billionaire, i personally don't believe there's one state in this country which agrees with that. that's why i'm very happy to see president obama suggesting he's going to get out of capitol hill. he's going to go on the road and explain that issue to the american people. i hope millions of folks all over this country from blue states, from red states, start calling up capitol hill, their congressmen, their senators and say the wealthiest people in this country have to start paying their fair share of taxes. >> senator, good to s
are democratic and half of whom live in hollywood? >> reporter: republican leader john boehner said when he was talking about being open to new revenue, he was not talking about new tax increases. the president sits down with democrats and republican leaders here on capitol hill on friday. back to you. >> tracie potts in washington. thank you. >>> two weeks after the destruction from hurricane sandy, victims are still trying to put their lives back together. more than 100,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey are without electricity as they struggle to rebuild. a 77-year-old man has died from injuries from a fall brunging the city's death toll to 43. homeland security secretary janet nah pop politan know has reaffirmed her commitment to be with those for the duration. now for a look at the weather here is nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. give me good news. >> that's depends where you are in the west. >> i want sunshine. >> go south. the northwest isn't pretty. rain and snow in many areas of washington state and oregon state. look at the radar. t
of them is obamacare, as john boehner put it the other way, it's the law of the land. that means that businesses are going to be laying people off. that means that over eight million americans who are part time are going to continue to work part time until we see a real resurgence in this economy, certainly. because it's just not economical for the employer to move ahead. it's cheaper for them, in fact, to pay a $2,000 fine. imagine this, to pay $2,000 for an employee they didn't hire who they've hired and not put them on an employee-sponsored insurance plan. this is the exact reversefect of what we had, you know, been told would occur. but we should be used to that, because so much of the -- so many of the consequences have not been intended because they were never thought out by this congress, the previous congress. and we're looking at people saying it's partisanship. let me give you an example of why that's pure bull, shannon, many i fay. shannon: please do. >> one of the companies laying off people is a company called stryker, one of the medical device makers, one of the big
-brainer that even a john boehner or mitch mcconnell have to see they cannot survive politically and oppose that. >> eliot: one would hope so. this is one where you want the president to watch the days and watch and say i'm not moving. this is your fault. >> bill: right. then here's the latest wrinkle. i'm sure you saw yesterday some democrats now say that they're buying the mitt romney plan, if you will, of let's not raise tax rates. let's just close loopholes. right. can you get there -- two-fold question eliot. i hate to put you on the spot. one is what's wrong with raising tax rates and two can you get there just by closing loopholes? >> eliot: nothing and no. nothing wrong with raising the rates on the top folks including me including the president including -- >> bill: and me. >> eliot: this is what this campaign was about. the president spoke to it eloquently. bill clinton. every economic study. i wrote my editorial on my show the other night the congressional research service just came out with a study saying ther
from major players. >> i'm open pro compho comproe myself. >> reporter: speaker boehner said they would have to avoid nasty fights and according to "the new york times," they seemed to listen. but it could push the country offer the fiscal cliff, the 1st of january. that's when the number of tax cuts expired dubbed taxmageddon. and severe cuts that defense spending would be triggered. the sticking point on avoiding that cliff -- taxes. the president campaigned on and won on letting tax cuts for the rich expire. a leading republican said no. >> no republican is going to vote for higher tax rates. we will generate revenue from eliminating deductions from loopholes. >> reporter: if that sounds like the argument we heard before, you're right. that rates for the rich rise. are we headed for that cliff? >> so if the republicans will not agree wi that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expire and we'll start over next year. >> on friday, congressional leaders come here to the white house to start negotiations in earnest. david kerley, abc news, the white hous
. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so called grand bargain, $4 trillion in debt reduction, including politically sensitive changes to social security and medicare. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy if the standoff drags on. >> if three or four weeks from now they're making no progress at all, you'll see the anxiety and nervousness growing in the markets and corporate boardrooms. it's going to be a rough for months. >>> two weeks after the destruction from hurricane sandy, victims are still trying to put their lives back together. more than 100,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey are without electricity as they struggle to rebuild. a 77-year-old man has died of injuries from a fall as sandy hit new york, bringing the city's death toll to 43. janet napolitano visited with disaster relief workers in new york, reaffirm
at the top john boehner in columbia, and the shooting here early this morning at the wal- mart being described as a commercial armed robbery. the suspect you are left evidence. >> i heard about the shooting on the radio while i was dri >> imagine the terrifying ride as she came to pick up her son who works at the walmart overnight. a drive she makes every day but on the statius emotional. >> it doesn't give me a good feeling right now. >> were some along with other employees and customers were inside the store when a 28 year old manager was accosted by a lone gunman. the masked gunman demanded cash and forced the manager outside and shot him once in the chest and then police made a startling discovery not far from here. >> there was a vehicle and the area, we are treating that as a possible suspect vehicle. no one was allowed in or out of the parking lot for several hours. >> really hectic. backed up. >> all of them were eventually killed by other managers to stay quiet. we found shocked and confused customers. the suspect described as a white male is still on the loose. it took an u
boehner outlined different positions is there room for a deal. >> i think there may be because john boehner made it clear that while republicans don't want tax rates to rise, they are open to collecting additional revenue. on the other side, president obama reiterated that he wants the wealthiest americans pay more taxes but he did not demand that tax rates rise to collect the money. if we read between the lines it looks like a deal could be cut to limit itemized deductions for the wealthiest americans. that's schedule a and some o of the popular deductions include mortgage interest or charitable contributions, property taxes and state and local taxes, we could see a deal around the itemized deductions. >> i don't want to be the grim reaper, what if they don't get a deal done, we're in trouble. >> 80 to 90% of americans are going to see their taxes increase, maybe by 3500 dollars on average, 2 grand for middle income americans. if you're a low to middle wage earner. here's what you would lose, the valuable earned income tax credit and payroll tax would go up by a couple percent. if
's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where i think that, i remain optimistic. >> folks, there are a lot closer than sometime the bravadoish headlines seem to make clear. this is really about what can boehner take to 50 to 100 house republicans who are willing to temporarily potentially raise some tax rates on some group of wealthier americans? >>> by the way, after $6 billion spent on house senate and presidential campaign, not only did party control not change for the house, senate and white house. but the individual leaders who will begin the negotiations tomorrow, it's the exact group of people. there are some personnel changes but not on that leadership
scoring. or closing loopholes that have not been identified. >> on this day, house speaker john boehner claimed that gallup survey showed most people support lowering the deficit ending the tax loopholes and making needed spending cuts. but that is not specific enough for white house. boehner wasn't more detailed the day before. >> getting in to the specifics of that at this point would not be con deuce i to try to come to the white house. >> republicans and democrats continue to position themselves for friday startup talks between the president and congressional leaders. each accusing the other of refusing to compromise. >> the keys to the car are heading toward the fisca cliff are in republican hands. >> liberal democrats demand 1 to 1 ratio of higher tax re-knew to spending cuts, some conservatives are demanding the only increase revenue come from the expanded economic growth. there is little prospect of that enough to avoid the cliff. meanwhile, senator coburn is calling for democrats cut and democrats to find savings in medicare and medicaid. the oklahoma republican admits it's nor
boehner has a big task ahead of him. can the house speaker pull the gop together and try to make a deal with the president on the fiscal cliff as jay leno was talking about. should he? should a deal be made? a fair and balanced debate is coming up. lots of talk how the united states will eventually be world's top oil producer. that is what some say. there are questions why it is taking so long. those stories and breaking news all "happening now." jenna: well, it is a little unbelievable, but there is lot of twists and turns in this scandal we've been following so closely surrounding former cia chief and now others. hi, everybody. glad to have you with us. i'm jenna lee. rick: happy tuesday. i'm rick folbaum in for jon. controversy over the timeline of events over the petraeus investigation with members of congress wanting to know why the fbi didn't notify them and the white house until just recently when it began months ago. that investigation far from over. fbi searching the home of petraeus's alleged mistress, paula broadwell. after david petraeus resigned his post as america's top sp
boehner immediately saying he generally supportive of trying to close the loop holes. do you see that as raising taxes? >> what boehner said and in the republican position since republican we should reduce rates have economic growth many of which are put in by obama for the solyndra green-type energy programs. let's bring the rates down. boehner was clear he wanted increase revenues it is not a tax increase to put more americans at work. if our recovery was growing the rate reagans did more americans would be at work. in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from 15-20. where do you think that those four points will go in negotiations with the republicans? >
boehner used a post-election conference call with rank-and-file republicans to plead for patience, to give him running room to negotiate with the president who did just win reelection. mandate or not. >> let's discuss what's going on in our "strategy session." joining us are donna brazile and alex castellanos. that bill crystal comment, go ahead, raise the taxes on the wealthy, maybe more than $250,000, maybe $1 million a year. he says, what's wrong with that? half of them voted for obama anyhow in hollywood, he makes that point. >> i think the big thing is republicans want to plant as much seed corn into the economy so it will grow. but here's how the republicans in the house are looking at this thing. i've talked with a few of them this week. this is not about a deal to raise taxes. we already have a deal to raise taxes. when these tax cuts expire, taxes will go up for everybody. what we're talking about is a deal to get some of the money back. >> but no one wants the taxes to go up for the middle tax, for people making less than $250,000 a year. everyone agrees they should have the curr
they will or will not go on this issue. house speaker john boehner says he believes they can reach a deal. >> i don't think anyone, on either side of the aisle under estimates the difficulty that faces us. but i do think the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week from myself and my team, from democrats across the aisle, from the president, have created an atmosphere where i think that, i'm, i remain optimistic. i was born with a glass half-full. >> what i have told leaders privately as well as publicly, is that we can not afford to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. what we can do is make sure that middle class taxes don't go up. 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehn
in the washington post this morning. a picture of president obama and john boehner. the upbeat tone was a dramatic shift from recent years when the president and a gop fortified by anti-government activists clashed repeatedly over spending and taxes. if he were to go to yesterday's new york times, they have a listening are at least pictures of the key leaders that will be involved in this process. to show you where they stand specifically on some issues, here is the president saying he will reject any bill that extends tax cuts for the wealthy. here is john boehner who has said raising tax rates is unacceptable and a new revenue should be generated by economic growth spurred by a simpler tax code and that closes loopholes and and deductions. there are some other leaders involved in this project. what do you think they will be able to do to keep the fiscal cliff from happening by the end of the year? that meeting taking place at the white house. here is some video from it. if you are looking at that again and you want to wait and on this topic, you can call in. your confidence on congressional lead
connell, who's the senate minority leader, he's taking a tougher stand than even boehner. let's listen to both of those positions. >> let's be clear. an opening bid of $1.6 trillion in new taxes just isn't serious. it's more than simpson/bowles or any other bipartisan commission has called for. it's been unanimously rejected in the house and senate. it's twice as much as the white house agreed to last summer during the debt ceiling talks, and looked at in the context of the spending cuts yet to be implemented, it amounts to about 20 cents in cuts for every new dollar in tax hikes. in other words, no cuts at all. it's a joke. a joke. >> we right away say 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. half of the danger to our economy is removed by that single step. >> okay. so is it a joke, or as the democrats would say, the math isn't adding up? let's look at the issue of deficit reduction. the democrats say the -- let's say if you cut loopholes
the house speaker john boehner, the president, you can see him sitting there. let's listen to the president. thank them for their time and i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. we have to make sure that taxes don't go up on middle class families and that our economy remains strong and creating jobs and that's an agenda that democrats and republicans and independents, people all across the country share. our challenge is to make sure that we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises and build some consensus to do the people's business and what folks are looking for and i think all of us agree on this is they want to see that we are focused on them and not focused on our politics. my hope is this is a fruitful process where we will come to agreement that will reduce our deficit in a balanced way. i want to thank the leadership for coming and with that wool get to work. thank you very much, everybody. wait, wait, excuse me, there is actually one other point that i wanted to make. that is that my understanding
on that famous fiscal cliff. and speaker john boehner's getting in on the love. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. this framework can lead to common ground. because if there was a mandate in this election, it was a mandate to work together to do what's in the best interest of our country. >> but any fundamental reform is going to require republicans to break their signed pledge against raising taxes. we'll discuss that next on "now." hungry for the best? it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. want to give them more vitamins, omega 3s, and less saturated fat? it's eb. eggland's best eggs. eb's. the only eggs that make better taste and better nutrition... easy. eggland's best eggs. better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. it's eb. >>> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell. you know what, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't see why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes f
. he and house speaker john boehner were close to a deal last year and people chose his way last week tuesday weigh found out that the majority of people agree with my approach. democrats, independence and some republicans. now we need a majority in congress to listen. >> mitch mcconnell didn't give mr. obama a mandate. they just gave him more time' and speaker boehner still objects to higher tax rates, shepard. >> shepard: republicans here and there are changing their tunes on a lot of things. bill kristol the conservative commentator is one of them, he says raise taxes on the millionaires it won't kill us that shook the g.o.p. establishment. he supports the president's own deficit reduction commission taxes and spending cuts which mr. obama himself turned down. crystal's comments came on "fox news sunday." >> you know what? it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offers to freeze taxes on everybody below 250,000. >> since polls indicate most people favor phasing out he upper inco
speaker john boehner. senator collins told the newshour today that she's optimistic lawmakers can still strike a deal and stave off the spending cuts. >> so this has to be done carefully. i think the president's right that -- and i've said this for a long time -- that we have to look at both revenues and spending. but there eds to be compromise on both sides. >> woodruff: but mcconnell said the president needs to put a proposal on the table if any agreement is going to pass. >> the time for the president to lead is now. that means offering a concrete plan that takes into account the fact that half the congo poses tax hikes. >> woodruff: on the democratic side house minority leader nancy pelosi rejected calls by some in the party who have argued for letting the country go over the cliff to get a better deal. >> i want you to b disabused any notion that there's any widespread thought that it would be a good as a country for us to go over the cliff. we want an agreement. we want an agreement. >> woodruff: law mangers will have to try to differences on the fiscal cliff and other issues with
-- john boehner can turn around-- they man a bit chastened right now, but 235 house republicans were also re-elected, so i don't know why the-- why the washington environment is a whole l different. >> the other thing the president said was i'm not up for reelection again. so they look ahead, they see 2010 and think if taxes do go up for the middle class, it will be john boehner, and the republicans to take the blame. >> well, that may be but who is it going to play that kind of bluffing game with the debt ceiling because that's when you really risk tremendous market reactions and peril. i know you talked about david petraeus, and the whole foreign policy issue last night on charlie, martha, but do you-- t me ask you again, do you take seriously the notion that john kerry could be defense secretary? >> i think that was a trial balloon. >> you do? >> i 19, clearly both of those stories were trial balloons. president obama, obviously, took it a little further, quite a bit further today talking about susan rice. it was no longer a trial balloon. but i think john kerry-- you know, is that a c
there. >>> next, john boehner was re-elected yesterday for a second term as speaker of the house, but georgia congressman louis gohmert, an original charter member of the birther crowd, had a different candidate in mind. who do you think he nominated? newt gingrich for speaker right now. you don't technically actually have to be a house member to be speaker of the house, but it's been the rule historically. by the way, boehner's word to gohmert after the vote, "louie, i love you too." >>> finally this one. after the election we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama won the election. some are going through with it. robert murray, ceo of the coal company that ordered employees to attend a rally with mitt romney, laid off 156 employees the day after the election. nice guy. john schneider, ceo of papa john's pizza chain, says he will be cutting employee hours to avoid costs associated with obama care. finally, john metz, ceo of several denny's franchises, says he will add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills to offset the cost of obama care. you don't
. >> reporter: speaker boehner even told his republican members they would have to avoid nasty fights, and according to "the new york times," they seemed to listen. but those words don't change a basic disagreement that could push the country off the fiscal cliff, the first of january. that's when a number of tax cuts expire, dubbed taxmageddon, meaning the average family will pay an extra $3,700 a year. and severe cuts to defense and government spending will be trigg triggered. the sticking point on avoiding that cliff? taxes. the president campaigned on and won on letting tax cuts for the rich expire. today, a leading republican said no. >> no republican will vote for higher tax rates. >> reporter: if that sounds a lot like the argument we've already heard, you're right. and democrats appear emboldened that rates for the rich rise. >> if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expire and we'll start over next year. >> reporter: the two sides have four more days to lay out their markers. on friday, congressional l
for the wealthy. >> while members are not supportive of the tax plan, john boehner are urging them to make compromise, something president obama senior adviser david axelrod called encouraging. >> there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reductions. >> one half of those automatic spending cuts would affect the defense department's budget. david martin shows us what that means for the military. >> reporter: the dreaded sequestration would double the $500 billion in cuts the pentagon is already planning to make over the next decade. defense secretary panetta has not minced words. >> if sequestration goes into effect it's a disaster for national defense. >> reporter: the strategy of pivoting away from the wars in iraq and afghanistan towards the pacific and an emerging chinese superpower would come undone. >> all of that can go to hell if this congress doesn't face up and deal with the issue of sequestration. >> reporter: in this letter to senators panetta warned by the time sequestration was over the u.s. would have the smallest ground force
obama to avoid the fiscal cliff that would affect all of us. speaker boehner continues to insist raising taxes is out of the question. >>> traffic and weather together, next. >> let's take a live look outside, gonna be chilly, meteorologist mike nicco will have your full forecast and we also check in with sue hall.afi >>> 80 homes damaged, to people killed, the cause still unknown. what is next in indiana, after that mysterious blast >>> beautiful picture wanted to show you the gorgeous colors this morning isn't that tremendous as we look southeast. high clouds not as cold as it was over the weekend, still seeing 30s especially in the east bay and north bay valleys and around los gatos. low to mid 40s san francisco]6Ñ÷ in the afternoon 50s coast low to mid 50s the rest of us best thursday. >>> if you have to come to san francisco, great morning to do it, pretty, chilly, light at the bay bridge toll, no issues, into metering lights no problems upper deck light out of novato through central san rafael past freitas parkway to north san pedro road past civic center moving at limit couple
it needs to be. folks are going to hold the line and i will tell you why. look at how scripted john boehner had to be when he said revenue. where democrats fell out of their chairs. he had to do it with a t ee teleprompter. >> god bless him. raising tax rates is not the answer to this. >> but you know what, look. i know karen, other democrats believe they got this great mandate. but house republicans believe they got a mandate to put a check and balance on senate democrats as well as the president. so we are going to have to have a compromise for a change. >> we have a mandate and for president obama you would hope that he would start thinking now about what is his legacy and does he want to leave office with a terrible economy. i don't think in year eight he is going to be able to blame george bush. he ought to start thinking about economic growth. this is probably the least harmful way. > exit polls show that that george w. bush hurt romney tremendously. >> the polls are the polls. but the point i'm making in the second term, it is president obama's don mi aeconomy and def. he is going to
boehner if you were now the de facto leader of the republican party, and his answer was -- >> oh, i wouldn't think so, paul ryan is a policy wonk. >> i take that as a great compliment from john. >> reporter: is that your role now in the republican party, policy wonk? >> i've always been one of the house policy wonks. my role is to continue to be a champion of ideas and help our party be the reform party that shows how we get economic growth. >> reporter: ryan says he unplugged in the days after the campaign. he didn't even hear the news about david petraeus' resignation or questions about its timing until later. instead, he was hunting and spending time with his family. >> you know, the great thing about just this last weekend, i got to go to both my boys' basketball games and two of my daughter's volleyball games. >> reporter: there's an upside to losing. >> an upside to losing, reconnection with my family which is something we've always -- we're a very close family. people got to see our family. i'm excited about getting back to work here. >> reporter: paul ryan's three kids all in eleme
to be that much wiggle room, speaker boehner sounded a bit optimistic. >> i've outlined a framework for how both parties can work together to avert the fiscal cliff, without raising tax rates. >> a few have looked closely at what the president have had to say, looked closely at what i have to say. there are no barriers here to sitting down and beginning to work through this process. >> the president says that he is open to any ideas, good ideas, from republicans, to get revenue. he said that he will not slam the door in their faces, but still taking that tough stand, that he will not extend those bush-era tax cuts for wealthy americans. we also saw the president take a strong stand, as you pointed out, in defending his ambassador, ambassador susan rice. the president realizing that she's been coming under attack from republicans, in particular, senator john mccain, who's been going after her, because of the narrative that she told shortly after those benghazi attacks. senator mccain saying that he just wants to get all the facts, suggesting that the white house has not been transparent. the pres
speaker john boehner has balked at that idea. it would take away most of his party's leverage in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> there are a lot of issues on the table that have to be resolved by the end of the year, and i think i've laid out a reasonable framework where both parties can work together, and i'm looking forward to going down to the white house on friday and beginning that conversation. >> reporter: bainer and other top republicans have proposed eliminating deductions and loopholes that benefit the wealthy instead raising their tax rates. >> we are not going to hurt our economy and make job creation more difl which is exactly what that plan would do. >> reporter: today the president argued closing loopholes alone won't be enough to cut the deficit. he'll have that argument face to face with wayne or friday. one of the most frequent criticisms we've heard over the past few years from members on both sides if you haven't done enough to reach out and build relationships. are there concrete ways you plan to approach your relationships with congress in the second term? >> look, i
wealthy. speaker of the house john boehner is arguing for eliminating tax loopholes instead. the fiscal is just one of many challenges facing congress including the aftermath of super-storm sandy. if you're planning to travel over thanksgiving, you'll have lots of company. triple-a projects more than 43 million americans will travel at least 50 miles over the holiday. that's up slightly from last year. nine out of ten holiday travelers will hit the roads and they'll find gas prices slightly lower than last year. more than three million people plan to travel by air others will take trains and buses for their holiday trips. the thanksgiving holiday period extends from wednesday, november 21st, through sunday the 25th. just ahead. the states with the most cooking related fire-claims around the holidays and where illinois ranks. and, still to come this midday the money being wasted at air traffic control towers. where some employees are basically being paid to keep each other awake. tand later in lunchbreak: expert tips o that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type
bipartisan spirit. [ mumbling like boehner ] >> stephanie: we're going to make job creation more difficult. really? you're just going to continue with the same talking point? the job rates. >> the job creators-- [ mumbling ] >> stephanie: weren't those tax cuts supposed to expire two years ago? >> stephanie: yes, yes. >> that's too quick for them. >> stephanie: well yeah the president obviously gave in the last time. he said at the time this was an one-time thing. and as you recall he did it at the time because he was--it was over, you know, unemployment. you remember, it was right before christmas and they were going to cut off yeah, any way. economists from both parties say that a return to the recession is likely unless they compromise on the legislation. obama said everybody's taxes will go up including those who when make make less, and as an alternative. i don't know why they don't do this. he suggested paying legislation immediately to pre-event tax hike on everybody's income. >> that would make sense. >> stephanie: a measure that has already passed the senate. and he said we should
boehner, the president proposed $800 billion in new tax revenues. but now, he is seeking twice that. $1.6 trillion in new taxes over the next ten years. that's a bitter pill for republicans to swallow. speaker boehner has called raising tax rates on anybody unacceptable. but he hasn't ruled out limiting deductions and closing loopholes. and that could be the outline of a possible deal. >> if you looked closely at what the president had to say, looked closely at what i have had to say, there are no barriers here to sitting down and beginning to work through this process. >> reporter: but if they don't come to a resolution, beginning january 1st, the economy could be thrown back into recession. and households making $70,000 a year could see their taxes increase over $4,000. the president said he is open to new ideas. and if republicans have a way to raise taxes on the wealthy without raising rates, he wouldn't slam the door on them. george? >> the dancing begins. jon, thanks very much. >>> let's get to josh and the mounting violence in the middle east. >> as we all slept, we're going to b
the election, speaker boehner sate said the fight is over and it is i now the law of the land. do these refusals mean the fight may not be over? >> i think the federal government is prepared to run exchanges in the states that don't cooperate. speaker boehner is right, the congress will no longer talk about repealing the law. i think if congress we will see pb cans raising portions of the law they think are controversial or may be able to attract democratic votes and peel back smaller pieces of the health reform law. >> what's your best guess that the the states will adhere to the deadline. mid december ito make their attentions known. >> i think it is important to note the health reform law, people have to select plans beginning in ok of next year and the plans go live in the year following. there's not a lot of time between now and then. states want to run their state exchanges we will know by december which ones are ready and which aren't. >>> ahead, getting to the truth about ben benz. a house member who grilled general petraeus on captiol hill joins us in just a moment. yeah,
, it is not going to make a difference. john boehner needs to stand his ground. he needs to say we can bring in more revenue, reform the tax code but won't raise taxes on anyone at this time. if the republican party doesn't stand for something, then they may as well call themselves another set of democrats. charles: the republican party was deemed the party of no for the last couple of years, and i think it hurt them at the polls. do they have to compromise somewhere? >> they will likely have to compromise but where they shouldn't compromise is raising taxes. that's going to affect economic output. even cbo talks about another drop in economic output. our gdp growth -- charles: if they don't raise taxes, how do they do it? what does boehner mean by revenue? >> you have to cut out subsidies. along with that tax reform is necessary so companies can make more money, small businesses. if you make it so they can be better companies, bigger companies, hire more people, even a a part timer, you can't to increase economic output. >> articulate why that's not the solution. explain to people why raising taxes
more in taxes. >> house speaker john boehner argued against any tax rises -- tax hikes. >> instead of raising taxes on americans, let's begin to solve the problems. let's focus on tax reform, closing the loopholes and tax rates. instead of an arbitrary cuts that will endanger our defense, but consumers about entitling -- short of the entitlement programs. >> in haiti, turn to rains and floods have killed 11 people and left thousands homeless. just two weeks after he was devastated by hurricane sandy, rivers have overflowed, crops have been destroyed, and aid workers say they are in dire need of supplies. >> we have 150 people here with only 12 sacks of bread. they gave us four cases of jews this morning. the world food program brought two packs of cookies for each one. we have handicapped people here, women who give birth last night. we have nothing for them. >> and the york region is continuing its slow recovery, retain sunday -- slow recovery from hurricane sandy. officials say the storm caused more than $50 billion in damages to the new york region, making it the country's costl
the fiscal cliff. boehner rejects the idea of letting the bush administration upper income tax cut expire. >> instead of raising tax rates on american people and accepting the damage it will do to the economy, let's start to solve the problem. >> focus on tax reform to closeer the loopholes and lower tax rate. >> tax reform in seven weeks before the end of the year is a tall if not impossible task. some lawmakers want to buy time. others don't believe lowering tax rate raises revenue. >> fairly tell. we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate. continue to cut spending. they have to hear the mandate. >> the players haven't changed but instead of huddling around the table in the cabinet room as he and congressional leaders did in failed negotiation last year, the president may hold series of post thig rally to lock in the bush administration middle income tax rate, that conservative commentator bill crystal suggests is a no-brainer. >> it won't hurt the country if we raises a little bit on millionaires. it won't. >> why would they fall on the sword for mi
will take a proactive role here because this is the land of the lane. house speaker john boehner has said it himself. this is the law of the land. this is the next big step. if perry and walker don't do t then the federal will do it for them. >> jennifer: this seems to me these republican governors are all about state rights would want to set up this exchange because it allows them to be these states and republican governors in charge and not the hated federal government. why are they fighting? >> they're putting ideology and partisan politics over the benefits of consumers. the great fallacy here is that obama-care is a government takeover of your healthcare. the government will come into your life and control your care. but these exchanges are private insurers they're giving you option. it is a marketplace and a private marketplace for to you pick out the best options amist amidst these horrible ones. it's really partisan talking points no more, no less. >> jennifer: earlier this year chris christie vetoed the bill but since that time the new jersey legislature passed a similar bill, an
reflection. but moving ahead, speaker boehner was asked whether paul ryan would be the leader of the party. he referred to him as the wonky guy. what are we to make of paul ryan? >> he is the wonky guy. that was a dismissive comment that the speaker made. what he was trying to say is that he's coming back here, the same guy, as when he left. he's going to be a voice on certain issues, but he's not going to be a leader in the party. >> thank you very much. a pleasure having both of you on today. thank you. >>> coming up, john maca fee, he's wanted for questioning in the murder of his neighbor. details ahead. >>> and just moments ago, president obama finished meeting with labor leaders at the white house. how much leeway will the left give the president when it comes to medicare and social security? that's a question posed by our first read team. we'll check in with them. >>> plus what's being called one of the prison's prime gigs. what's a prime gig behind bars? it's just one of the things we thought you should know. [ forsythe ] we don't just come up here for the view up in alaska. it's th
, but it all had to come from spending. the republicans got their way. remember the talks about boehner and the negotiations on the debt ceiling. he got 98% of what he wanted. so the conversation used to be we will cut the deficit through spending cuts. now within the space of a week, the same people, glen hubbard who was romney's chief economic adviser slated to be the federal reserve head if romney had won has an op-ed in the financial times today saying the first thing we should do is focus on more revenues and the way to get that is from capping deductions for the wealthy. so it's extraordinary the shape of the the rhetoric that's coming from republicans in the the last week has really changed a great deal. i think they recognize, even if obama doesn't recognize and even if most centrist democrats don't recognize it, they hold all the cards here. >> so who's the god you're referring to there? >> grover norquist? i'd say it's more a collection of dayties who said the first -- >> but that's the point. republican leaders and some republican thought leaders might be coming around that w
boehner offered last year and many top republicans say the government should not be raising taxes on everyone. gerri willis is with us, in other than bill kristol said this will not kill us. he pointed out under president reagan taxes on the rich were 50 percent and that was the highest tax rate and we did well. >>gerri: what bill kristol said we would be okay if we raised taxes on people would on the other hand $1 million or more but not specifically addressing what the president said which is raising taxes on people who earn $250,000 or more which is opposed by some democrats here in new york city. >>shepard: no one wants to pay more taxes. what the president is doing he is not saying $250,000, to observers it sounds as if he is ready for compromise. he said he is ready for compromise. >>gerri: and today he met with a dozen corporate leaders from the biggest corporations, walmart, g.e. and chevron, at least six of them in the meeting today have already served on either the president's jobs council or other councils the president has had and lot of people discussing what to do wi
all the leverage in the world. go ahead boehner yap yap yap, yap. six weeks from now i win on almost every issue if i do nothing. they're going to buckle. i won't say that i won't negotiate. those things are on the table. the incomes tax is not on the table. also on the table. estate tax. it's slated to go up to 39%. it's at 35%. then you have carried interest and corporation taxes. why in the world are we talking about cutting corporate taxes. i'll go in the option opposite direction. i'll take away loopholes. we're not going to give you what you want. i won you lost. how about spending cuts to tax increases. president obama keeps saying i want to do $3 of spending cut for every $1 in tax increases. that was before the election. if i'm president obama i say here is the new formula. now we're going to do $1 in spending cuts for every $3 in tax increases. you know why? i won. you lost. if you like we can do it again in 2014. would i settle for 2-for-20? i would settle for that. but i wouldn't go 3-to-1 against me. who would do that numbers that, unless you want to move. 3-to-1 against
will get my mind right because i'm not going to buddy breathe with john boehner. you never know when he goes from lee marvin to tammy and starts sobbing openly. i'm not going to be the last guy stuck with this. i get it the country has changed. i'm all reporting for duty, sir. >> bill: so now you are going to tell me that you, dennis miller, are now giving up and are going to get in lock step with the secular progressives? >> have you ever seen the movie invasion of the body snatchers. go dead eye so they don't get hassled? that's me, man. [ laughter ] i got my -- i got my own thoughts when i'm out on the sidewalk dodging the sea pods. you are going to see this look. all right? that's exactly what you are going to see. billy, you think is a glitch. i think is a sea change. i don't think this comes back during my lifetime. i do think it comes back in the same way an alcoholic who has a brush with mortality will eventually come back. somebody will have a stroke or somebody will almost croak from alcohol will poisoning fiscally but maybe then we pull it back. this thing is not edging back.
's what speaker john boehner talked about, constructive, but there's also a lot of urgency. now, nancy pelosi, we have a lot more of this interview, a fascinating interview, only she thought they could work out this deal in mid-december. i asked her, of course, look, we've heard optimism before and this went nowhere. but there is that urgency now. americans are sick of this. this is the second time around. >> and so overnight we saw -- we saw this video of david petraeus' alleged mistress, paula broadwell, his biographer working with her husband, the first time we've seen the two of them since this scandal broke. so let me ask you about the petraeus affair which i know you've been following so closely. where does this go now? what in your view is likely to be the next shoe to drop? >> well, i think what we've learned this week is this is not over. i think a week ago when we heard david petraeus say he was resigning because he had an extramarital affair. we thought it might go away. but every day it seems like there's nothing new. they're now looking through those classified documents t
for the middle class. house speaker john boehner says higher tax cuts on the wealthy will slow job growth. experts say compromise may not be reached until the final hours of this year. >>> plans are in the works to prepare pennsylvania avenue for the inauguration. this morning the d.c. department of transportation announced repaving will begin tonight and last ten days. that project will take place during the overnight hour. then affect pennsylvania avenue between third and 14th streets. it will cost about $2 million. the inaugural parade will be held on january 21st. >>> it felt like january out there this morning. the temperatures dipping enough to create some sleet. >> kind of wild for a time. doug kammerer is in the weather center with more on what we can expect next. doug? >> we heard so much from this. yes, we saw sleet. that is frozen rain drops that come down. sleet is what will bounce on your car, freezing rain is what will fall as rain and then freeze on your car. once again, fits bouncing, it is sleet. that's what we had out there. you can see the radar picture showing the rain
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